Tuesday, November 28, 2017

LGBTQ - What is the right question?

Sermon given at Sydenstricker UMC 11/26/17

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NRS Genesis 19:1 The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 He said, "Please, my lords, turn aside to your servant's house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you can rise early and go on your way." They said, "No; we will spend the night in the square." 3 But he urged them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; 5 and they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, so that we may know them." 6 Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, 7 and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have not known a man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof." 9 But they replied, "Stand back!" And they said, "This fellow came here as an alien, and he would play the judge! Now we will deal worse with you than with them." Then they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near the door to break it down. 10 But the men inside reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck with blindness the men who were at the door of the house, both small and great, so that they were unable to find the door. 12 Then the men said to Lot, "Have you anyone else here? Sons-in-law, sons, daughters, or anyone you have in the city-- bring them out of the place. 13 For we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the LORD, and the LORD has sent us to destroy it." … 23 The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zoar. 24 Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 and he overthrew those cities, and all the Plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground. 26 But Lot's wife, behind him, looked back, and she became a pillar of salt. 27 Abraham went early in the morning to the place where he had stood before the LORD; 28 and he looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah and toward all the land of the Plain and saw the smoke of the land going up like the smoke of a furnace. 29 So it was that, when God destroyed the cities of the Plain, God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in which Lot had settled.

Welcome today to what I hope will be the beginning of fruitful and illuminating discussions. There are plenty of things in this world that we need to be concerned about including war, illness, inhumanity, to name just a few. God loves us unconditionally. God does not put conditions on who we should love and excludes no one from that love. We all agree that God intended many things differently in the beginning at creation. God created male and female to be partners, to procreate, to been at one in stewardship with the world around them and share the love of God with each other and those who came after them. So is the right question, who should we love? Or is the right question about if there are more important issues to discuss?

Should we be discussing the decline in membership of the United Methodist Church who if things don’t change is projected to decline by over 65 % by 2050. Certainly here is an area that needs conversation and resurrection. Should we be discussing the decline in young people, youth and young adults who stay away from the church their parents and grandparents grew up in? Should we be discussing the areas of mission we as a church are ignoring, the marginalized who are struggling while affluent churches thrive? Well the easy answer is yes, yes, yes, yes and more yes. But those are not the central issues I need to address with you today. John Wesley tells us, “You have nothing to do but to save souls. Therefore, spend and be spent in this work. And go not only to those who need you, but to those who need you the most.”

I am here to talk about the LBGTQ issue. For those that may not be aware of what those things stand for it is Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Trans-gender and Queer. These terms engender somewhere around 3.8 % of the US population according to Huffpost in April 2013 and may be as many as 10 % of the US population. There are estimated to be 549,000 same sex couples in the US or less than 1 % of the total households in the US 2010 census. Anti-same sex marriage laws were ruled unconstitutional in 2015 with the Supreme Court decision. Homosexuality possibly can affect 10 % of the population of the world. “That large a population can hardly be accidental.” (Debate at Virginia Protestant Episcopal Seminary February 1992)

The reason that we need to have this discussion is because it affects most of us in this congregation in one way or the other. Most of us have relationships, family or friends that fit these categories that I have spoken of. Many of us work with, deal with or may even struggle with that our friends or family members fall into these categories. But the most important reason for me to share this topic has to do with what is coming down the road in 2019 for the United Methodist Church. Today a commission of our peers has been meeting to suggest how to maintain unity in the United Methodist Church while recognizing that we don’t all agree on membership, leadership and same-sex marriage within the United Methodist Church. This commission which includes Virginia’s Tom Berlin has been working since 2016 to find a solution that will work going forward. This has been and will continue to be hard work. Often the voices surrounding this issue can be loud, unwilling to compromise and difficult to navigate discussion through. But before we get there, we are here and we need to be able to have clear, honest discussion.

So why did I choose this scripture? Maybe because it seems to be the story of our response to Homosexuality. I so often hear people use this story to justify their view point about homosexuality. Many believe God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because of it. But most theologians believe Sodom was destroyed because of it’s evil, it’s inhospitality to outsiders and that they had turned their back on God. Male rape which was used in that period of time is still prevalent in prisons and certain areas of the world and it used to demoralize, to gain control of and to subordinate those who are they desire to degrade and control. Interestingly enough depending on the version of the Bible you are reading, the words translated in the NIV as “bring them so that we may have sex with them” is based on a verb that is used 810 in the Old Testament. However, we should note that only three times has it been translated as sexual, all other times it means to know, to understand, or to be in relationship with. So let us explore for a moment what the two sides are saying to one another about this subject. Let us deal with the scripture this morning. Angels had come to Sodom to see for themselves what evil was lurking within the city walls because of an outcry against them. In the discussion with Abraham God had determined that if they could find ten that God would spare the city. In those days’ hospitality toward strangers was paramount to surviving in a desert climate and keeping peace throughout the region. Strangers were to be treated with respect. But clearly the people of Sodom were not intent on treating the strangers, the Angels of God with respect. Now the passage indicates that all the people of Sodom were a part of this uprising of sorts but clearly the scriptures indicate that the men were intending some sort of sexual response and we can glean that they intended to abuse the Angels of God. Lot even offers his daughters in place of the Angels, his love for God is that great! This part we are clear though others may argue the exact intent of the words of scripture for us, we all agree that something was not as it was intended to be from the creation of the world in Sodom. So God intended to punish the people by destroying the city and we know from scripture that God did just that. Was the sin of Sodom homosexuality alone, probably not! Was the sin of Sodom evil within the hearts of the people, absolutely!

The traditionalist uses the scripture as the basis for their position. They point to this scripture in Genesis, scripture in Leviticus and in the New Testament, 1 Corinthians, 1 Timothy and Romans. Let us explore that for a moment. We have heard the story in Genesis that is used to identify homosexuality as a sin. They will point to Leviticus 18:22 which say that it is an abomination when a man lies with a man as he would lie with a woman. And Leviticus 20:13 goes further and demands that they be put to death. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 which says, “Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, 10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers -- none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.” Our scripture today is often used to describe the destruction of Sodom as a result of their lifestyle of homosexuality. Paul in Romans is often quoted. NRS Romans 1:26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. 29 They were filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, craftiness, they are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters,1 insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, rebellious toward parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 They know God's decree, that those who practice such things deserve to die -- yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practice them.” It’s a long list! And I suspect all of us have sinned somewhere in Paul’s list. Proponents of this view will argue that in Genesis, God created male and female for heterosexual relationships alone. How many of you are wearing some kind of cotton or polyester blend this morning? You are guilty of the same set of laws that condemns homosexuality. It is confusing is it not?

There are three issues before us this morning. First, the issue of acceptance of those who are LGBTQ as members. Second, the acceptance of those who are LGBTQ as Christian leaders. And finally the issue of same-sex marriage. There are folks who will argue that homosexuality is not a choice. Scientific evidence appears to support that for the 1.6 – 6 % of the population that is gay; a percentage is genetically born that way. Those that support gay rights will argue that it should be a civil matter, an issue of equal rights under the law. That there is no difference between the commitment men and women make in heterosexual relationships and the commitment between partners in homosexual relationships. They point to the evidence that is supported by history that gay lifestyles have been the accepted norm in society form the beginning of time up until the last four hundred years of history. It was an accepted practice in the time of Jesus and Paul. Proponents of ‘Gay Rights’ point to Jesus not excluding anyone in his teachings or his behavior and treating everyone with love. Or they point to scripture being written before medical and scientific breakthroughs discovered that much of what we now know about illness, sexual preference and behavior is genetic. All skin diseases were considered leprosy in Jesus day and people were shunned and excluded. Women were treated as property with no value and Jesus railed against that injustice, meanwhile, homosexuality was part of society probably in the same proportions as it is today and He never said a word against it. A report of the committee to study homosexuality to the General Council of Ministries of the United Methodist Church reported that there is scientific evidence sufficient to support the contention that homosexuality is not pathological or otherwise an inversion, developmental failure, or deviant form of life as such, but is rather a human variant, one that can be healthy and whole. The American Physiological Association reported that most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual preference and LGBTQ issues have been removed from the list of illnesses reported on by the Medical community.

So where exactly does that leave us? As a United Methodist pastor I live by two books, the Bible and the United Methodist Book of Discipline. I want to read you what the BOD says about this matter. In paragraph 161 the BOD states, “We affirm that all persons are individuals of sacred worth, created in the image of God…The United Methodist Church does not condone the practice of homosexuality and consider this practice incompatible with Christian teaching. We affirm that God’s grace is available to all… We implore families and churches not to reject or condemn lesbian and gay members of friends.”[i] And in paragraph 304.3 it states that practicing homosexuals cannot be ordained or appointed as ministers. In Paragraph 341.6 it says that United Methodist ministers may not perform or participate in same sex marriage ceremonies and paragraph 806.9 that no funds of the United Methodist church may be given to any group or caucus that promotes the acceptance of homosexuality.

As a church we are taught to love one another above all things except loving God. That love is paramount to everything we must do in the world, loving one another. And we are called to that love inclusively. But my heart and mind struggle with creation where it clearly was God’s intent for man and woman to be in heterosexual relationships. It is how we were created in the beginning. But we know that somewhere something went against God’s plan for humanity. God intended the world without sin but we all sin. Is it possible that being genetically predisposed to a sexual preference is a sin. That is one of the questions is it not? I do know that one sin we all share is our desire too often to judge others.

I know that within this church we have family members and actively attending folk who are gay or have friends who are gay. I have a friend who is United Methodist minister who has a daughter who is gay and he says that though he struggles with her lifestyle he does not struggle with loving her unconditionally. Does God love those who were born with homosexual tendencies any less than those born into heterosexual lifestyles? We believe not! Did Paul intend to address an issue in his day of older men who subjected young men into homosexual relationships against their will? Clearly that was a practice of his day that he reaches out to. Do the original rules of Leviticus still hold true today? If so, we violate them every time we eat seafood or pork. Adulterers are no longer stoned to death nor are those who steal losing their hands in our culture. Is it possible that God’s guidelines for living three to four thousand years ago are no longer as relevant as they were in that day and time? And whether we accept it or not, medical advances have changed how we view genetic makeup and illness. Masters and Johnson did a study that said that 67 % of homosexuals could be brought back into heterosexual relationships. But what that means is that 33 % cannot. My study says that there are three ways to become homosexual. One is that you are born that way. The other is that there are men who are more feminine or women who are more masculine and the opposite sex shuns them for their differences. And some come to that preference through abuse. The last two are likely the 67 % in the Masters and Johnson study. But truthfully if someone would say to me that they are gay, I cannot determine how they became that way and frankly I don’t care how they became gay. I also understand that the issue of leadership is about trust and protection for our youth. Statistics tell us that homosexual behavior does not lead to sexual predator behavior at a greater rate than heterosexuals.

So what then is the question?  I think it would be hard pressed for us to say it is as simple as only one question to be answered. I like the way Adam Hamilton sums it up. He reminds us that Paul spoke about seeing things dimly in a mirror that one day we will see clearly, but only when we are truly in the presence of God. I think for all of us this issue is complicated. Will the church split over it and divide? Maybe! Where will Sydenstricker fall in the future United Methodist understanding? These are questions we need to ask. Are we, each of us a traditionalist who cannot accept LGBTQ folks in membership, leadership or marriage? Are we, each of us progressive who cannot accept a traditional stance by the church? Or are we, each of us somewhere in the middle where the church can be church regardless of the position taken at General Conference? Over the next twelve months we will explore these questions in Pastor Chat moments. Would you join me in discussion?



[i] Smith, Judith E, ed. (2008). The Book of Discipline of the United Methodist Church 2008. Nashville: The United Methodist Publishing House. Page 103

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